[rodgerd]

"The problem with marxism is the failing to live up to it."

This is how you sound.

[nailer]

That's not actually an unreasonable line of thinking.

[rodgerd]

Sure it is. If a theory keeps failing in the real world, it's time to modify or discard the theory.

[nailer]

Either that, or modify the implementation

There's been a lot of failed Marxist societies, but some implementations, the Kibbutz for example, has been relatively successful. One could also argue that HN and startup culture is an example of workers seizing the means of production.