[dsl]

> the platform independence story of the JVM really is the best of anything out there

Serious question: Is this still true, and does it even matter anymore?

If you are building web apps you can run whatever platform you want. 40%+ of smart phones don't do Java. Arduino doesn't have a fully functional JVM. Java in the browser is non-existent due to security issues.

[toddan]

I think it matters, try developing ruby on rails on windows and you will have bad time. For me only php and java are the two platforms that i have been able to develop with, no matter what os i am currently using.

[Nullabillity]

Getting *AMP running is a pain no matter where you are. On the other hand, I was merrily chugging along with Python stuff on Windows for a long time with only one problem (in order to install native libraries you either need an obscure version of Visual Studio or hunt down obscure downloads from the itnernet).