[goshx]

what if I told you PHP does not require you to write ugly code? You can do the same in any other language.

[roryhughes]

Oh, i'm completely aware of that. I was just really talking about this document, didn't mean to spark the debate.

[CHY872]

but it makes it incredibly easy to, which is the reason why people hate it. If I'm a good programmer, of course I'll write good code. If I have to fix someone's shit code, of course I'm going to be incredibly angry if it's only there because the language encourages it.

Of course, if the language makes it very easy to write bad code, even as a good programmer I could easily end up writing stuff that's incomprehensible etc.