| > I do see the email as spam. I did not make the conscious decision to receive email from you about your products or anything else: to me, I clicked a box that said I read and agree to your ToS in order to get your product. Yes, I get that you don't want to be responsible for what you agree to with other people. However, you punish the middle man - the mail carrier - because you regret your own decisions you admit were made in ignorance. > Argue it if you want to, but understand what you're arguing against is perspective and that I don't share yours. I think you're simply unreasonable: you're whining about getting a sales message from someone you proactively established a business relationship with and turned your contact information over to, and that they disclosed your information would be used that way. In no way was that message unsolicited. You just wish you could get the product without even having to pay the meager amount of receiving sales literature in return. I think that makes you an asshole, because you're punishing people for conducting reasonable business rather than taking some ownership of your behavior and simply unsubscribing. > down-voted you This bolsters my view that you're largely just an asshole: you're trying to punish my internet points or hide my comment because you don't agree with me, while you yourself admit that there's nothing in my comment but a difference of opinion. So, really, I wish mail carriers would just ignore people like you when they submit spam reports - since you admit you're not using it how it's intended, but to flag solicited emails you agreed to receive, which damages the reputation of the mail relay, even though they're not doing anything wrong. They're just delivering requested mail. It's like you trying to get the phone company that a second company uses to call you in trouble because they had the audacity to connect a phone call after you gave your number to that second company and told them it was okay to call you at the end of your free trial. I really wish someone could present a argument for your view that didn't just make the person sound wildly entitled and assholish. |
It sounds to me like neither of us is willing to discontinue what the other side sees as deceitful behaviour.
On your side you assert that my agreeing to ToS is sufficient to start sending me "solicited" email, and on my side I assert that the fact that you have to hide the opt-in inside the ToS is evidence that your emails are spam.
I do concede that I could have carried on with our conversation without down-voting you, that wasn't necessary to make my point.
Other comments in the thread point out that a "Unwanted, but not spam" button could be useful, I think that's a great idea but wonder if it could be taken one step further. A spam filter that monitors who reports what email as spam and assigns them a rating based on what they report as spam.
Eg. I would have a high rating because anything I did not explicitly request is spam. You may have a low rating because you are much more lenient with your use of the Is-Spam button. This could then allow users of that service to set which rating to use when filtering spam.
Given the widely varying differences of opinion on this topic I can't help but wonder if the other commenters are correct about this being a UX issue instead of a technical one.