[KaoruAoiShiho]

What's the alternative to meteor that's been overshadowed by meteor?

[flylib]

there is none

Derby is the closest thing to it but Meteor has more capabilities and has a better development team plus a lot larger developer community

[malandrew]

Do you have any links to larger open-source derby apps? I wouldn't mind looking through the source of one.

[wmf]

AFAIK Derby was earlier, has better npm integration, and has better server-side rendering.