[hackinthebochs]

Just so you won't feel your efforts here have been entirely useless (as one can often feel in such conversations), you have convinced me of this point, that restrictions on marriage are a modern view and not supported by ample case law.

[bane]

Thanks for the reply. I too have strong emotions about this subject, but am trying to keep conversational about it.

If in question about the Constitution and the intent of it, I usually just refer to the first bits of the Declaration of Independence

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"