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by altero 4460 days ago
Nothing against Jennifer, her stuff is impressive.

But I find this ridiculous. This is called learning and is done by thousandth/millions others. Everyone has to overcome their fear of being judged and stuff. Giving kudos just because of gender just undermines girls to take on harder challenges in future.

I started coding professionally when I was 17 not to starve, while overcoming depression and mental illness. My cousin started coding recently, he was born without hands! Nobody gives a shit because we are men.

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For me is not interesting because is a woman, it´s interesting because she made public the process and what she did. That´s very useful to me because I want to learn, and also I want to be able to point somebody that asks me to an amazing example. Please tell your learning process if you think you may help someone due to your special situation.
I think here website is impressive as bunch of simple puzzles. I teach programming as a hobby and I may actually use some of that stuff.

I have problem with comments here. Nobody offers any sort of constructive criticism. We should review source code and give her some advice. Perhaps recommend a new framework to use, or even completely new direction (NodeJS).

Who in the world cares that she is a woman? I have a wiener, and I certainly have not done anything so ambitious. You're the one making this about gender--everyone else just sees someone who set a challenging goal and accomplished it.
- About half of the comments are about girls/gender/sexism and so on.

- Any sort of criticism is down-voted to hell, this never happens when author is a boy

- and finally show me similar toy project from boy, which would make into front page of Hacker News.

-I've seen very few comments about sexism, except those like yours that are making it an issue. I don't see that many saying "Wow, that's great that a girl can code!". Thankfully.

-How many newbie type projects do we get? Are we downvoting criticisms because of gender or experience?

-Show me a similar project from a boy that didn't.

Ugh, now I'm all angry. Can you point to _one_ comment where someone gave her kudos based on her gender as opposed to her work? I just went through the entire page to see if you had any leg to stand on.
Can you show me _one_ comment which actually recommends how to improve her skills? You know: " I noticed you are using ... but there is framework which does it better"... sort of stuff.

I think boys deserve bit more encouragement and girls deserve bit more honest constructive criticism.

Oh, I see. So, since no one said, "Hey, you've been coding for 100 days! Here's EVERYTHING YOU DID WRONG" then clearly, we're all just too sexist to treat women like people.

If there _is_ any pussy-footing here (er, no pun intended) and I in no way am acknowledging that there is, it is in reaction to the extreme chauvinism of coders like you.

> Oh, I see. So, since no one said,

Kind of. I see lot of endorsements, but no evidence that someone actually read her code. There is also nobody who followed her on daily basis, since her announcement year ago.

You do not understand my basic complain. I do not mind girls get special treatment (not that she would need it). I mind that boys do not get the same special treatment.

There is a huge shortage of developers, but I only see helping programs to encourage GIRLS coding. There are FEMALE only internships and so on. Men are only 38% of college graduates.

Now when men learns to code by himself despite education system, he is called chauvinism because he is proud of his achievements.

Yeah, because when you're playing MarioKart, you don't get a blue shell if you're already in first place.
Perhaps you have not noticed that most loosers are men.
Are those types of constructive comments typical on HN? I ask because I'm fairly new here, and I haven't really noticed many (there are a few) constructive criticisms for any of the projects I've seen posted around these parts.
I generally receive constructive feedback via email and I am always happy to receive more. The source for YumHacker is on GitHub.