[speeder]

Then people of US don't understand why people from other countries dislike the US and consider it meddlesome.

Also, people of US should own up their mistakes, I am very bothered by the average US person that keeps voting to the current top two parties and then complains when people from other countries are upset at them because of the US wars and intelligence interventions, if you voted to re-elect Obama, you cannot complain when people from Brazil, Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Germany, etc... get upset with you.

[k-mcgrady]

>> "I am very bothered by the average US person that keeps voting to the current top two parties"

It's that way the American system works. Look at the insane amounts of money those parties spend campaigning. Nobody else has a chance to compete with that. Plus the two main parties are too similar. Republicans are conservative and Democrats are centrist. They're liberal when compared with republicans but when compared with liberal parties in other countries they are far from it imo. People who are socially or fiscally liberal don't really have good representation. In the end for a lot of people it's a choice between two evils.

[67726e]

if you voted to re-elect Obama, you cannot complain when people from Brazil, Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Germany, etc... get upset with you.

I suppose I've got nothing to worry if I voted for Romney?</snark> I totally get the frustration, I really do. I think most of our elected leaders are crooks and liars. But this two-party stranglehold makes it really hard to change anything, and so long as they're in power they will resist and fight any change to the two-party status quo. So what can one really do?

[kahirsch]

> Then people of US don't understand why people from other countries dislike the US and consider it meddlesome.

Wait a minute, are you implying that the US is doing something wrong here? This seems like an excellent project.

[k-mcgrady]

>> "The U.S. Agency for International Development masterminded the creation of a "Cuban Twitter," a communications network designed to undermine the communist government in Cuba"

Of course they're doing something wrong. If Cuba tried anything like this against they US they'd be bombed into oblivion. Cuba has a different form of government, one most of us don't agree with but that doesn't give the USG any right to interfere. In the meantime North Korea treats its citizens like shit and supposedly works on nuclear weapons and US does nothing. The only reason they care at all about Cuba of because of their history with it.

[kahirsch]

Dictatorship is just a lifestyle choice!

I don't know what you mean about "if Cuba tried anything like this". What would be like this? Americans can already communicate freely over the Internet.

I know that my father-in-law used to listen to Radio Havana in the U.S. back in the 1960s, by the way. The U.S. didn't bomb the radio station.

[speeder]

I am against left wing governments, but last time US tried to sow dissent to get rid of a communist in Brazil we ended with thousands dead, missing and tortured, with CIA help, and two carriers, just to make sure the "dissent" would not end in a civil war.

[kahirsch]

So helping people communicate freely = death squads? I don't really understand what you're trying to say here.

[speeder]

The problem is not the phase 1 of the plan ( creating a tool ) it is phase two ( incite dissent ), because to do that you need to manipulate and lie, and can result in very violent revolution fueled by hate, hate created by making people.believe things are not even true, thus a sort of empty hate, hate for its own sake.