[abbasmehdi]

It's a common problem among external facing engineers. A source of great stress also. I think it is critical for engineers to discuss this topic and re-shape our view of working with the external world. We don't operate on an island and we cannot keep going for long with a condescending view of the business types without developing issues. Figuring out a mutually beneficial / acceptable operating procedure is key. The default is too negative and helps no one. With some skill, we can leverage our position, really solve big problems, and have a better working relationship. Just my 2 cents coming from b2b where my projects have 100% external impact (i.e. if we fuck up, they will have egg all over their faces - brings out the control freak in the business types).

[dang]

Sure. That's why it should be discussed in the context of, say, a thoughtful article, rather than a baity video. If you'd care to post such an article, or an Ask HN, that would be much better.

Edit: None of what I said applies to your comment, though. How about this? Post it as an Ask HN with a good title. I'll put the link in my comment at the top of this page, we can ask rogerbinns and hurtmykneee to migrate their replies over, and have a substantive discussion.

[abbasmehdi]

Thanks for offering an alternative, Dan. Not sure if it's worth the hassle. I do appreciate your effort.

I would like to point out that the baity video is satirized commentary on many enterprise cultures. Though the presentation layer is light, the content is heavy; thus spawning discourse.