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I don't see any unions representing M&P grades negotiating these sorts of agreements as it woudl not be in the members best interest.

You know the entire uk telecoms infrastructure was revamped with zero fuss about new technology one of the main reasons was all the techies where union members.

And I know one ftse100 CEO was a union member and had been an activist and the CTO of one of the worlds largest phone manufacturers was a member of my branch.

as I said you just repeating folk propaganda based on stories about decades old "craft unions" which have nothing to do with how a union for developers/engineers woudl work