Thanks blufox but i have no Mac device. It isn't my religion. I'm not religious anyway. I think that restricting comms to your own cult is retrograde, anti free speech and kind of proprietary, like religion, possessive etc. We should share as much as possible and speech is free. That imessage deserves to be got around for these kind of reasons and I had hoped that some whizz kid or whazzy old person reading my post would have the answer.