[tomgruner]

This is a great point. The initial Docker examples make everything seem easy, but we blew way past our estimated time in integrating docker into our workflow because of the points you mention. I am still happy with the choice to use docker though and our team will be better at server administration in the future.

One thing about this getting started guide is that it recommends the Phusion base image which boots init. That seems to go against the best practices outlined in a recent article by Michael Crosby - http://crosbymichael.com/dockerfile-best-practices-take-2.ht...

[FooBarWidget]

I'm one of the authors behind Phusion's baseimage.

Phusion's baseimage does not go against Michael Crosby's best practices. His best practices states not to boot init, and with that he means the normal init. He states that not because it's the init process itself that's a bad idea, but because the normal init performs all kinds of work that is either unnecessary or harmful inside a Docker container. In fact, this is exactly what the Baseimage-docker documentation also states: don't use the normal init.

The Phusion baseimage does not contain a normal init, but a special init that is specifically designed for use in Docker.

[fideloper]

Nice, hadn't read those. Thanks! I was wondering about that, but still need a solution for logging, cron jobs, and similar (perhaps running those on the host machine is the answer)

[tomgruner]

I am still finding good solutions for those too, and trying to add some concepts to my toolbox like orchestration, service discovery, proxies, data containers, ambassador containers, and so on. It's hard for me to wrap my head around the different recommended ways to use docker compared to my initial expectations.

[sounds_good22]

the comment below by user:

pg_fukd_mydog

Pointed out that FreeBSD jails do this right.

[tomgruner]

What is that username, something from reddit? I really have no interest in FreeBSD.

[tomgruner]

To be clear - I think FreeBSD is an awesome project and the jails look solid, but it is really the Docker community and exploding Docker ecosystem that makes Docker appealing to me. For example, Red Hat embracing Docker means that I can build Docker containers for enterprises that embrace CentOS and Red Hat. None of the corporations or organizations I have worked with use or support FreeBSD, but they all support CentOS. Reference: http://www.infoworld.com/t/application-virtualization/red-ha...