[svenkatesh]

>It is much more civilized than many nations and has much of the institutions that make a modern nation. Just that the military and religious extremism

Given that the Pakistani military and ISI control so much of Pakistan's government, is this a worthwhile distinction?

[unsupak]

India has led the genocide in Kashmir of over 100,000 kashmiris, Mr Venkatesh, Can India even be regarded as a civilized?