[ccarpenterg]

I hope you're wrong. If a state was involved that would mean that boarding a plane is extremely dangerous from now on.

This case is really suspicious but I still think this was just an accident.

[aestra]

Not really...

Nations (and other organizations) have been carrying out false flag operations since forever. In the 1960s there was Operation Northwoods - a plan by the US government to bomb US civilian aircraft and plant evidence it was Cuba who did it to justify invading Cuba. The Joint Chiefs of Staff signed off on it and it would have been implemented except JFK wouldn't sign off on it.

So even if this had nation state involvement, it is about the same danger to get on an aircraft as it always has been, or go out in a crowded event, or theater, school, etc... which are also targets for terrorism. Example would be the failed Lavon Affair http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair

[ccarpenterg]

So what do you actually believe? That this was a false flag operation and that the plane is fine and parked somewhere, perhaps it never took off?

It's hard to believe to say the least. If such scenario does exist what makes you think that you can figure it out by yourself?

[aestra]

Did you even read what I wrote? I don't believe either. I don't claim to know anything about the plane. I can't even fathom a guess as to what happened to it.

>what makes you think that you can figure it out by yourself?

I don't think I can figure it out myself, nor did I ever claim to or make any attempt to figure it out myself.

I was replying specifically to "If a state was involved that would mean that boarding a plane is extremely dangerous from now on." I was saying if and that is a big if nation states were involved that boarding a plane would not be extremely dangerous from now on. Not any more dangerous that it currently is, as there has always been a history of nation state involvement in aircraft disaster, it just doesn't happen very often.

>and that the plane is fine and parked somewhere, perhaps it never took off

If this was a false flag operation, the plane and its passengers would almost certainly not be fine. They are generally designed to create death.

[raverbashing]

Yeah, because states were never behind any deliberate downing of a civilian aircraft, either through external hit or from within the aircraft.

[etherael]

Why is this being downvoted? Are people really so naive as to not be aware of this?

[coldpie]

Arguments and supporting evidence is much more highly regarded than pithy sarcasm with nothing to back it up.

[raverbashing]

At the day and age of google, wikipedia, it should be obvious where to look for those, which are public and very widely known events.

I can think of three with no effort: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_103 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007

[knowaveragejoe]

Of course, none of these fit the profile of this incident and all of them occurred before 1990, so, hard to draw a comparison here.

[jfoster]

A couple of (fairly old) North Korean examples:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_YS-11_hijackin...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Flight_858

[dragonwriter]

> If a state was involved that would mean that boarding a plane is extremely dangerous from now on.

Why, it wouldn't be the first either destruction or hijacking or both of a plane with nation-state involvement, so I don't see how it would change anything?