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by dm2 4476 days ago
Another flat CSS theme for bootstrap? How many minutes did that take you? The layout on the site does look nice though.

http://flathemes.com/ is your main website, it has a link to download version 1.0.1 (even though github says version 2.0.0 is the latest), then when I click download it says that I have to Like with Facebook or Twitter to download my "free gift" of your BootFlat theme, that rubs me the wrong way.

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Stop the hating, please. It has a hugely negative effect on HN in general and on creators specifically. Don't use it if you don't like it.

Whenever I come across people who really hate me and my work it takes every ounce of energy to try and ignore them and move on. So hard. --John Resig, creator of jQuery (https://twitter.com/jeresig/status/425483930918060032)

This is such a silly comment.

If people can't show their opinions of things, whats the point of even having HN. I didn't realise that everyone had to love everything posted on this site.

I think it's a question of the tone with which he "didn't love."

There's a difference between:

"Another flat CSS theme for bootstrap? How many minutes did that take you?"

and

"There have been a number of flat CSS themes presented on this site, so I find it hard for any one of them to really distinguish themselves. Have you considered [the idea that OP thinks is better or more original or more useful]?

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The reason it's less than ideal to weigh in with such disdain is that it discourages other people for whom creating something like that would be a MASSIVE undertaking.

Imagine a beginning designer who doesn't know anything about CSS or graphic design, so, for their initial project, they want to create a flat CSS theme. It's ambitious for them, and they're anxious to start and they log into HN and...oh. Wow. That person just made something better than I could ever make and got BLASTED.

What's the point of trying?

Comment #2 encourages them and points them towards a better suggestion. Comment #1 adds nothing.

Reason #1 for the harsh tone was the requirement of a social media Like before the download.

Reason #2 was that I was disappointed that a CSS file with a few colors changed passes as an HN article these days.

Humility is a valuable lesson to learn. I see no reason to lie to the person and pretend that they provide any real value to anyone actually using Bootstrap.

The point of trying is not to show off, it should be for self-growth. If the article said, "this is my first project as a web-developer, what do you think", then I would have been much more polite, instead this guy just wants as many Facebook likes as possible so that he can eventually make money off of you.

Did the page change in the past 15 hours? You can download the theme as a zip[0] without any social bullshit, or install using bower.

[0] https://github.com/bootflat/bootflat.github.io/archive/maste...

Yes, yes it did. Possibly because of my comment. Either way, good job on the changes OP.
There's a huge difference between sharing opinions and hating. "Another flat theme for bootstrap? How long did that take you?" is hating. "I don't like this, it's not good" or any variation there of is an opinion, ideally containing some reasoning.
and you are not ignoring. And yes the flat fad is dead already and this "work" is just a rip off. So one can "hate" it as much as one wants.
Yeah! How dare an author of something free asks you to do another free action to acknowledge his work that you're about to benefit from!
Argh! I hate it when people do things I don't like!!!