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by 1gor 4473 days ago
I think your 'Goebbels this' and 'Goebbels that' arguments are amusing.

Thanks for confirming that 5 TV channels carrying alternative views are banned in Ukraine. That's no problem for you because you call them propaganda.

Some people disagree. A lot of Ukrainians Russian-speakers feel that their point of view is not represented in Ukrainian official media, and that Russian news provide some valuable alternative. After all, one of the first laws of new Kiev govt was an anti-Russian language law.

And then in a single breath you deny neo-Nazi issue as a bullshit. You obviously know that lenta.ru editor was fired allegedly for publishing a link to Ukrainian "Right Sector" content.

Next you of may want to deny that Svoboda and their paramilitary wing Right Sector are neo-nazis... I could refer to to European Union officials expressing concern about Svoboda's position in Kiev government, but I think my arguments will be lost on you.

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> I think your 'Goebbels this' and 'Goebbels that' arguments are amusing.

i'd call them what they are: clueless idiots

this video is for our wannabe freedom lovers http://oper.ru/news/read.php?t=1051613380

(in russian)

> I think your 'Goebbels this' and 'Goebbels that' arguments are amusing.

Of course. Because you are completely under influence of that propaganda.

> You obviously know that lenta.ru editor was fired allegedly for publishing a link to Ukrainian "Right Sector" content.

She was fired, because Lenta became too popular and Kremlin decided to take over it.

> Thanks for confirming that 5 TV channels carrying alternative views are banned in Ukraine.

They don't hold any alternative views, or any views at all. They are just propaganda mouthpieces, their purpose is influence people in some direction -- and that's all. If they need, they straight up fabricate "news" out of thin air [1][2][3][4][5]. If they need they'll change their political "views" in day, because in fact they don't hold any. That's the difference between legitimate media, even very biased one, and just pure propaganda.

> Next you of may want to deny that Svoboda and their paramilitary wing Right Sector are neo-nazis...

Yes, they are not neo-Nazis, that's your Goebbels propaganda again, I commented about it there: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7400870 However, beloved by Kremlin propaganda "people's governor" Gubarev from Donetsk was one of the neo-Nazis from RNE: http://imgur.com/a/QeuZp

[1] http://fakecontrol.org/blog/2014/03/08/tass-upolnomochien-za...

[2] http://fakecontrol.org/blog/2014/03/06/cyrillic-cancellation...

[3] http://fakecontrol.org/blog/2014/03/03/2-girls-1-fake/

[4] http://fakecontrol.org/blog/2014/03/03/vtoroi-pasport/

[5] http://fakecontrol.org/blog/2014/03/02/first_channel_geograp...