[spacehome]

Facebook can ask me all they want for my data, and I won't give it to them. The feds literally don't give me a choice.

[Argorak]

That is true, but moral standpoints are not black/white and Facebooks moral standpoint in the whole privacy debate isn't quite the strongest. Facebook will basically take any interaction with them as a "yes".

Also, Facebook didn't ask me when my friends gave my phone number and address to them.

Zuckerberg has repeatedly shown a lot of moral flexibility on those issues - so the irony is definitely there.

[spacehome]

ok, I concede that point, but none of my friends are giving my info to the NSA, either.

[Argorak]

Sure, but we are still talking about Zuckerberg trying to make a moral argument about vast personal data collection.

[XorNot]

I hope you don't know anyone who uses Facebook, takes a picture with you in it and puts it on Facebook, or you know, have any web presence at all.

Of course to some extent I would also argue this is where things get grey - in a practical sense, private individuals do not, and have never, existed in civil society. Civil society necessitates making parts of your life public.

[halviti]

Facebook was caught red handed profiling literally everyone on the internet.

Every website that you ever visited with a "like" button, even porn sites. They compiled all of that information about "you" via cookies they put on your computer.

[DanBC]

Facebook collects data about people who are not its users.