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by jonnathanson 4481 days ago
I owe my writing career to HN.

I have been writing my whole life (I probably put in my 10,000 hours before I left high school). But until recently, I'd never really considered it as a serious job option. Journalism rarely pays a living wage. Trying to sell book proposals is like trying to make a career out of buying lottery tickets. Unless you are confident you're the next J.K. Rowling [1], you should leave writing where it belongs: on nights and weekends, as a hobby. Or so I'd always imagined. And so I spent the last decade of my life resisting the call to foolishness and misadventure.

I've been lurking, arguing, and mucking about on HN for the last few years. I took awhile to realize that HN had become my primary outlet for writing. Once I figured it out, I committed more time to lurking here.

I responded to my first HN jobs post in mid-2013, for a writing job with Priceonomics (YC '12). They responded rapidly (same day, if memory serves), and I got to work right away. I have done some very fun, very interesting work with those guys. (And I hope to continue; in fact, I owe them beers when I get back into town!). That work went really well. In the span of three or four months, I landed an agent, a book deal, some NPR appearances, and some columns in national publications. I have yet to make Harry Potter money, let alone my previous salary. But in the meantime, I'm paying rent in San Francisco, doing something that doesn't feel like work to me. That's pretty cool.

Lately I've picked up a lot of freelance content marketing and writing jobs through HN Freelancer threads. I get a good response rate, and the people I work with have been awesome. I hope to keep landing these gigs every month or two.

And at some point, I'll get around to writing that book.

I apologize if this post seems glib, humblebraggy, or even non-humble in its bragginess. That's not my intent. I just saw this topic and felt an overwhelming need to share my story here. My path is atypical and ill-advised. Especially if you like making money. But I know of no other path by which I could have reshaped my destiny so quickly.

[1] Or Robert Galbraith, or whoever.

4 comments

Hey .... I could not have asked for more... Thanks for the detailed response. It really helps in my understanding and adds a not of value.
"not" is: ton*

I know normally corrections are frowned upon, but this should be an exception, it completely inverts the meaning!

Thanks ... yeah ... I meant ton ...
I have always been interested in turning writing into a secondary source of income, since I have been writing as a hobby for quite some time now.

What genre is your book in, and what kinds of work do you produce? Do you think you could possibly answer a few of my questions over email? Thank you!

I'd be happy to talk. Hit me up at jonfnathanson @ gmail.com
Writing any fiction? Asking as as fiction writer who has brought a few bucks in to date with their prose.
Some, here and there. Not highbrow, literary fiction per se. Have spent a bit of time on a YA series that I have yet to hammer into a shape I am comfortable with. Fiction is hard. Structure and pacing are serious PITAs for me.
any pointers on improving writing ability?
Read more. Also, write more.

That sounds really, really, ridiculously trite. But it's the best advice I can give. It's the best advice I've been given, and it's the best advice I've put into practice.

Read a lot, and expose yourself to diverse writing styles. Write enough to develop your voice, and to recognize it when you find it. Know that there is no such thing as a universally "correct" style, though there are certainly better and worse styles for any task at hand.

Another good bit of advice is to write as though you're talking to someone. Put your conversation down on paper, then go back and pretty it up as needed. First be clear, then be stylish. When in doubt, be clear.

thank you for the advice