[epipsychidion]

>I'd go so far as to say that if Paul Graham was in the business of funding hedge fund managers, Ackman would be one of his top picks from the applicant pool.

You lost me here.

Also, investing with Ackman is a terrible idea. His presentations are convincing and I agree that Herbalife's business model looks shady at best but I don't see things changing anytime soon.

> I really don't think he is stupid enough to want to lose more money just to stroke his ego.

At the risk of a cliche, it really isn't about money any more. When Icahn gets involved and we get to witness the CNBC equivalent of a schoolyard brawl on live tv, it's not about what's best for their investors.