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by pbhjpbhj 4488 days ago
>blatant persecution of gay people //

There is an active agenda attempting to legally force people to alter their actions to match others beliefs, "persecution" you might call it. Except it's not against those who have sex outside marriage it's against Christians - people who claim to uphold liberty of conscience simply will not allow Christians to express their views on marriage.

Marriage, in Christian terms and historically, is about creating community cohesion in order to provide a firm foundation on which to support the upbringing of children.

No matter how you legally alter the definition of marriage homosexual sexual union doesn't produce children.

All sexual activity outside of marriage is considered sinful within orthodox Christianity based on New Testament exegesis.

Christianity [generally] thus considers that homosexual sex is sinful in the same way as adultery or other pre- or extra-marital sexual activity.

Because you disagree with this analysis and it's foundational axioms doesn't mean you're being persecuted - whether you're an adulterer, a sexual idolater or whatever. It is sinful, you may peacefully respond to that however you like.

FWIW purity laws, ritual uncleanliness, sacrifices and such all ended with the New Covenant. It's a corollary to the very fundamentals of Christian theology; if you don't understand it then you probably have never read the NT and probably have no idea what Christianity is about.

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Persecution occurs when someone is not allowed to visit their dying spouse in a hospital because they are of the "wrong" gender.

Persecution occurs when the spouse dies, and her partner is deprived of any part of her estate.

Persecution occurs when we bestow a host of tax benefits upon married couples, but only if they are of the "correct" genders.

Persecution occurs when gay couples are denied corporate health insurance benefits automatically conferred to straight couples.

And persecution occurs when bigots justify these things by saying that gay couples don't "produce children".

Thank you for illustrating my point so vividly.

> people who claim to uphold liberty of conscience simply will not allow Christians to express their views on marriage.

That must be why you never hear anyone objecting to gay marriage any more.

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It seems to me that, even if there is sufficient New Testament scripture to infer that any types of sex are sinful that the parts about grace, mercy, love, forgiveness, self-control, being kind, "paying to Cesar what is his", not judging one another and not casting the first stone (just to name a few) would be such high priorities that trying to keep any government laws anywhere in line with Christianity wouldn't even be on the radar.
"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ" -- Gandhi