[ChuckFrank]

I do want to add that one of the frustrations that I've had with this type meditation work, specifically the Kundalini meditation practice that is the basis for this study, and that is that there's always a heavily structured pseudo-scientific process instructing a participant in the right ways of meditation.

There will be the different stages of the mind, or the different parts of the brain, all of which is simply taxonomic and not in any way related to anything scientific. So the learning of the 'ancient' or 'revered' system becomes the method to which true meditation can be achieved. Naturally this process, this method is nothing but fiction. Compelling perhaps, but still fiction.

[ph4]

So? Why does do you need science's permission to do anything?

[trekky1700]

I would say you need the laws of science's permission to do anything.

[byjazz]

Actually, you need the Laws of Nature's permission. Science is a human attempt to get at them. Showing that you can do something in spite of the current laws of science is how you make them evolve and progress.