[enraged_camel]

>>Jobs didn't create technology, he sold it to people

I don't understand what you are trying to say. Selling technology is a great way to facilitate its progress. Or do you believe that technology just sells itself?

I know that this is a forum primarily for developers (err, sorry, where are my manners... I meant creators), but the fact is that most developers would not have jobs if salespeople did not sell the products they created. I know that's a difficult thing to grasp for some, but it's true.

[lutusp]

>> Jobs didn't create technology, he sold it to people

> I don't understand what you are trying to say.

Okay, let me spell it out for you -- here's the remark I was replying to:

>>> If you can't acknowledge Steve Jobs massive contributions to technological progress

Really, "massive"? Invention of the transistor massive? Design of the first computer massive? Design of basic computer algorithms and/or languages massive? Or, to be more specific, design anything massive? Well, in point of fact, no -- none of the above.

> ... but the fact is that most developers would not have jobs if salespeople did not sell the products they created.

Yes, and people who actually develop technology wouldn't be comfortable without people to sweep the floors and empty the wastebaskets. The question you need to ask yourself is which role is irreplaceable -- the creator of technology or the person who sells it?

[enraged_camel]

>>Really, "massive"? Invention of the transistor massive? Design of the first computer massive? Design of basic computer algorithms and/or languages massive? Or, to be more specific, design anything massive? Well, in point of fact, no -- none of the above.

Massive in the sense of "co-founded the world's largest and most profitable technology company and later turned it around from the brink of death."

Ask yourself how many technologies we have today because of Apple, and how many innovations those technologies and products drive. Heck, you don't even have to compile a list, because I can prove my case with a single example: if it was not for Steve Jobs, Wozniak would have remained at HP for the rest of his career.