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by crazygringo 4493 days ago
Please. This attitude really needs to stop -- it's insulting to designers, because it implies their design skills aren't enough, and it's insulting to programmers, because it implies programming is so trivial that a designer should just be able to pick it up. Show some respect.

If you think a PSD isn't of much value, you don't have a clue as to what design even is. It's the equivalent of a designer saying that backend architecture isn't of much value to the product, just because they don't understand it.

I know a lot of people on HN come from solely a coding background, and think design is irrelevant at best, or even harmful at worst. But in most instances, that's just pure ignorance.

Print designers can't run printing presses. Hardware designers don't know how to smelt aluminum. Everybody has a job they're good at -- let designers be good at theirs, respect it, and appreciate the fact that designing and programming are entirely different skillsets.

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I never said programming was easy. I don't expect nor would want all software engineers to be good at design either. That be ing said, are you building front-facing products (say iOS or a front-end for a web application) you'd be better off with a software engineer who can design. Than a designer that can do photoshop mockups. Not everyone on that product team should know how to design out of the engineers.

But I am saying that designer that can't code their front-end, wether thats web or mobile, is kinda weird for 2014?

I never said design was unnecessary, I said a designer who' a single skill queen (in my world) is unnecessary. No one is advocating that design lack importance, but unless you can code the interface you design, you really don't add much value. Like an MBA with the next social media idea that will acquire a billion users in a week because it's such an amazing idea.

Implementation is the only thing that matters and ironically design is subjective enough for that.

Not to be confused with an illustrator - drawing is fuckhard.

Do you also think that a mobile app programmer who can't design is a waste? They are also a one-skill queen, unable to implement and create a product.
No, because software is inherently hard.
I agree, as a front-end developer that has a design degree I feel I've somehow been insulted twice.
What a load of crap. I'm a programmer, and designer. These are just skill sets that anyone with half of a good brain can learn. As usual, having a little talent helps too.
>programming is so trivial that a designer should just be able to pick it up. Show some respect.

HTML and CSS ain't no programming. You show some respect.