[caitp]

It would be a net benefit for everyone if people stopped believing San Francisco was some kind of "technology/business mecca" or something.

We need budding tech sectors all over the world, and we don't need everyone trying to move to California (and a lot of us frankly don't want to move to California, to begin with).

California doesn't offer anything which can't be found elsewhere.

[lutusp]

> California doesn't offer anything which [sic] can't be found elsewhere.

Except a self-referential belief that California is where it's happening.

Also: s/which/that/

[hdevalence]

There's absolutely nothing wrong with the quoted sentence -- this which-hunting is a ridiculous exercise in 'gotcha grammar' completely divorced from the facts about how the language is spoken.

See, for instance, http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=5479 .

[lutusp]

> There's absolutely nothing with the quoted sentence

Well, you're consistent, and let me adopt your style: the above sentence missing word.

[Goladus]

This grammar policing is not necessary or helpful to the discussion.

[lutusp]

I'm amazed by programmers who welcome the discovery of a misplaced semicolon but who object to the report of an egregious grammatical error, especially given the fact that both traits affect their employability.

[Goladus]

This is a comment thread. The language is informal, spontaneous, largely unedited, and participants come from a variety of language backgrounds. There are going to be grammar differences and mistakes.

You clearly understood the author, as did I and probably everyone else who read the comment. The objection was superfluous. When the commenter took offense and argued, the polite thing would have been to back down gracefully, since the point is entirely unrelated to the greater discussion. Picking on the missed-word typo is just a childish dig.

[djur]

which/that is not even an error, much less an egregious one.

[hdevalence]

Edited, thanks.

There is, of course, a difference between occasional errors and the way in which millions of competent English speakers use their language, but I'm sure you're aware of the distinction.

[lutusp]

I just think it's funny that programmers, acutely aware of the consequences of small code syntax errors, seem peculiarly indifferent to much more significant errors in their English prose.

And yes, I'm aware that many "errors" can be defended as conscious choices. But most of them are neither intentional nor contribute to effective communication.

[Goladus]

The English prose used in comment threads like this is written natural language. Programming languages are formal languages. Different treatment should not be surprising.

For further reading:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_language

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal_language

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_prescription#Problem...