[ebfe]

How about this:

So, you're saying that aside from the numerical value, a set of people with an average testosterone level of ~500ng/dL are exactly the same as a set of people with an average testosterone level of ~20?

To deny that hormones exert a tremendous influence over our behaviors and motivations is absurd.

[slamdesu]

The contention in this particular discussion is that women are somehow not natural programmers. There is no evidence that testosterone levels will affect someone to the extent that they have a natural tendency to logic or programming. Hormones DO have an effect, but it's socialisation that is pressuring men and women to adopt their roles.

[ebfe]

>There is no evidence that testosterone levels will affect someone to the extent that they have a natural tendency to logic or programming.

Possibly so, but there's plenty of evidence that testosterone levels affect someone's willingness to work long, tedious hours in isolation in exchange for a higher salary, and give up their personal time for career advancement.

[slamdesu]

reference? or just speculation?