[patrickaljord]

There's nothing vulgar or clueless with loving money and wanting more of it. Most startups got started thanks to people who have insane amounts of money and enjoy making more, this includes investors in startups that changed the world such as Google, Apple and Facebook. The world needs people who love money so they can fund people who love making stuff that put this money to good use. Simple as that.

So yeah, get off your high horse and please stop lecturing people with cheap and meaningless moral judgments.

[Helianthus]

>please stop lecturing people with cheap and meaningless moral judgments.

Ha. I'm not lecturing; I simply have no respect or consideration for your position.

You are not being lectured: you are encountering an attitude with which you disagree, and one that has no regard for your disagreement.

[patrickaljord]

I didn't say I personally enjoy making money more than coding/building cool stuff. I just said it was ok if some people do. And yes, when you call something "vulgar and utterly clueless", you're definitely making moral judgments.

> consideration for your position

You have enough consideration to feel like posting a comment about how much you feel about it.

[Helianthus]

>And yes, when you call something "vulgar and utterly clueless", you're definitely making moral judgments.

I know! My point is merely that I wasn't lecturing.

>You have enough consideration to feel like posting a comment about how much you feel about it.

I suppose I enjoy throwing the moral imperative into sharp relief; making it clear just how much I disdain your vulgar acceptance of the love of wanting money.

That moral imperative alone is enough to carry weight in this thread. It has wandered in as mere sentiment without ever presenting an argument.

...Now, of course, I have strayed into lecturing you about the mechanics of this whole thing--but note I still have not lectured you with the moral judgment itself. I don't care about convincing you that money is vulgar. Sanctimony is enough for me.

You are quite right, though; I have spent enough time here.

[patrickaljord]

> I suppose I enjoy throwing the moral imperative into sharp relief; making it clear just how much I disdain your vulgar acceptance of the love of wanting money.

Really? You disdain the love of wanting money? Looks like you have some personal issues, you're taking this way too personal. Get over yourself, some people love making money and there's nothing wrong with that. I tend to worry more about people who hate making money and have to rely on others, even if that means giving away their freedom or stealing.

[Helianthus]

Oh, I can't resist.

>You disdain the love of wanting money?

At what point has my absolute contempt for "loving money and wanting more of it" been unclear to you? Because you really should have clued in around when I said "Yes?".

>Looks like you have some personal issues, you're taking this way too personal.

This is banter while I fold my laundry.

>some people love making money and there's nothing wrong with that.

See, you just keep on repeating your disagreement with me as if it's going to change anything. Moral imperatives are, well, imperative, you know? I'm just going to reiterate: there is something wrong with that.

I'll rephrase you: some people hate the love of money and there's nothing wrong with that, or at the very least, you can't do anything about it.

You're wasting your own time and giving me more opportunity to bash greed, which is, as I said, making the folding of my laundry more enjoyable.

But I guess it might bother you that someone might think your moral compass is off center because of your position on money.

[patrickaljord]

I'm fine with people hating money, but people hating the love of money? Sounds like personal issues to me. I don't hate hating money as I don't have a personal grudge against people who hate money but it sounds like you do with people who love money. Oh, and I used to think greed was bad too, like when I was 12 but since then I've figured every single one of us act out of greed all the time and waiting for a greedless messiah is naive at best https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWsx1X8PV_A