[beachstartup]

> Any idiot can buy an SUV on credit

i take the point that you hate cars, but this isn't actually true.

[michaelochurch]

I don't hate cars. I hate when people buy unnecessarily large, unsafe, and environmentally irresponsible cars as a status symbol.

[beachstartup]

guessing you've never had to drive around with a bunch of gardening equipment, or potted plants, or bags of soil, or take a crew of 5 out to lunch.