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by xenophanes 4507 days ago
> 1. Mental illness, to the extent it exists, is objective and quantifiable.

> 2. Social context is irrelevant to mental health.

> 3. Therefore mental health is an individual issue.

None of those are positions Szasz holds. The first two are just kind or ridiculous – he said contrary things, a lot. They are pretty opposite to his actual positions. For the third, he is pro-individualist but the "therefore" is wrong, and also the topic "mental health" includes things like the insanity defense which aren't just an individual issue.

Your supposed anti-libertarian insights are basically correct – but Szasz already knew them and wrote about them.

Of course what is labelled "mentally ill" depends on the social context, rather than being objective. That was a major point Szasz made. Have you read his books?

> Obviously there are times when this is needed.

Here, where you advocate coercion, you have an actual disagreement with me and Szasz. This, not your points 1-3, is your basic disagreement with Szasz. It's the standard disagreement most people have: they favor coercion, he and I do not.