[Mz]

That last is very hard to ask because the vast majority of people are raised with either a guilt or shame model, thus asking it comes across as finger pointing.

Anyway, I need to go so cannot elaborate.

[einhverfr]

It's not a question of finger pointing so much as asking what social structures we have that make this harder.

You mentioned your kids live with you. How hard would it be if they didn't? Does the fact that we stigmatize adults living with their parents and make mental illness into an individual problem contribute to it?

[Mz]

People who are raised with a shame or guilt model will read fingerpointing into what you say whether it is there or not.

Given the problems I have, if they did not live with me, I likely would have died already.