[michaelmior]

It seems you're trying to insult someone who's making an effort to learn some new skills. Not sure what this has to do with the topic at hand.

As to the point of DIY not being hard, getting something working may not be hard. But handling fault tolerance, logging, backup, downtime, etc. is non-trivial. And as mentioned in other comments, this takes time. Even if you're a l33t ub3r h4x0r, that will always be true. For some teams, the DIY investment will make sense, others would rather spend their time building features than dealing with ops.

[goldenkey]

This conversation isn't geared toward insulting Jennifer, it's an attack on the lameness of using Heroku. I think Heroku users should each get a sticker that says 'I'm a proud black box user'