[coldtea]

>What does tar mean? ls? df? gunzip (something with guns?)?

How are MORE bad examples an argument against what he says? If anything they reinforce his statement.

Plus, the thing with "tar" and "ls" is that they've been tar and ls in all Unices for decades. If you learn "ls", and maybe "dir" if you want to use Windows, you're golden. Whereas every language seems to use its own names for "princ", "setf" etc, both before and after CL.

[lispm]

> How are MORE bad examples an argument against what he says? If anything they reinforce his statement.

These are not bad examples. It is just normal to use short identifiers in many programming languages and command interfaces.

princ is in Lisp for decades. Emacs Lisp:

    ELISP> (princ 'foo)
    foo

[_pmf_]

Maybe his/her point was that this is not a problem that is specific to Common Lisp.

[kjs3]

By that logic, all the other languages are wrong, since CL predates them by decades. Getf has been the same in CL since, what, 1952 (much older than Unix).