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by zamalek 4513 days ago
> I despise the Java language as much as the next dev

It's not so much the language that I despise - I never touched the language because of the end-user experience I got from installing the runtime: the nagging updates and the constant security headlines involving JVM. That's why I will never take the language (or the JVM languages) seriously: I simply would never put my users through what I am somewhat forced to go through (for the select few Java apps I do have to use).
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remon 4513 days ago
And the prize for least informed opinion goes to...

Let's review : 1) "I never touched the language" 2) Almost without exception Java vulnerabilities are related the the applet sandbox and not the core JVM

Also, find me a single engineer how understands how the JVM works, what it does, how it does it and how it compares to alternatives that also thinks it's sub par software. I'll wait.

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dkersten 4513 days ago
I dislike java the language and java gui applications as much as everyone else, but I've never had any issues with the JVM for server applications.
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EdwardDiego 4513 days ago
I'd wager nearly all Java developers run their applications in their own JVMs, far far away from the sweaty mitts of client-side JREs.

> That's why I will never take the language (or the JVM languages) seriously

Seriously dude?

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theandrewbailey 4513 days ago
Then you might think I'm the devil incarnate, because I force my blog visitors to use Java, because my blog is actually a Java Servlet app. Go ahead and try it: http://theandrewbailey.com/

There's more to Java than the client runtime.

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