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by goggles99 4517 days ago
>Are you too young to know all the asthma kids that grew up in no and so cal in the 70s/80s? Pollution in California used to be bad, then the people got serious about it, and now California has clean air. Incremental my ass. I guess you would have settled for incrementally decreasing numbers of asthma kids?

Because of the Laws that we made: OK kids the good news first... you don't have asthma. The bad news ... Millions of Chinese people through no fault of their own (but rather their government) are dead or dying and the planet is half dead too. Global climate change was accelerated significantly and will kill many of your great grandchildren and perhaps end the human race eventually... Feel better? Are you sure we really did the "Responsible" thing here?

We can push a problem off to a foreign country (who handles it a lot worse than we would) and wash our hands of it but eventually things will be a lot worse for everyone.

>Pollution in California used to be bad, then the people got serious about it, and now California has clean air

We do? Must be my eyes then that make the air look smoggy every day.

Look! If people want to fill their houses, garages, yards and public storage lockers with crap from China/Walmart, they should have to look outside and see the effects of it. Putting if off on the Chinese was one of the most irresponsible things that could have been done.

Since this big shift in environmental policy that drove all the factories out of the the country, coupled with free trade agreements - US consumption of manufactured goods per capita has more than tripled. Why do we need all this crap? It is ruining the environment and we cannot even see the effects of it around us yet.

If people could look around them and see gross pollution their over consumption was causing, only then would they really cut back on buying all the crap.

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Love the down-voted replies with no rebuttal. Shows the ignorance of HN viewers.
I didn't down vote, nor did I reply since I think your argument is a bit scattered. Obviously, we should consume less, but we should also push for better production methods. The argument that someone is willing to ruin their environment if we aren't isn't that useful; I know from first hand experience that it isn't viable in the long term....