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by icelancer 4524 days ago
This isn't on Coursera. Take it up with your elected officials.
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>Take it up with your elected officials.

Yeah, how's that working out?

But I totally agree this is not on Coursera.

You need to do more than just vote. Voting provides one bit of information to the electoral process, and you split that one bit between all of your political convictions. Worse, most of that signal is lost in the electoral laundry.

The best info that politicians can get on this sort of thing comes from polling, and people only poll on electoral issues. If you want specific policy change you need to help bring it to the attention of elected officials and electoral candidates.

>Yeah, how's that working out?

It isn't, of course. But that's not the topic on hand.

you know what?

this is actually something that we should contact our elected officials on

what has to happen here? someone at the State Department has to sign off on it?

that sounds like the sort of thing the right congressman or senator making a phone call could make happen

that also sounds like the sort of thing that many congressmen and senators would enjoy bragging about accomplishing

I would if I were in US.
If you were in the US they wouldn't listen to you either, so don't feel too bad.
Bullshit. If you work at it, you can change things. Sometimes it's not as fast, or as much as you want. And it's likely to be a lot of hard work. But you can help change things for the better.
You can change things, but sometimes it's better to walk around the brick wall or climb over it, instead of having a conversation with the wall asking it to please move out of the way for you.

[Edit: Can't reply to message below so I'll clarify here - my intent was that instead of arguing with politicians, they could consider options that wouldn't even involve politicians. Coursera could close their US business and move to a country that does not have the same restrictions. Doing so may also help persuade US politicians that their policies are having the reverse impact of what they want.]

It's been hauled out a thousand times, but here it is again:

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man."

Now, not every issue has to be everyone's fight, and for some things for some people, maybe skirting the issue is the best bet. We all owe a debt of gratitude to those who stand and fight, though.

Oh really? You can change decades-old embargo laws by writing to your elected local official? Really?
I think that's what he alludes to with "hard work" and "not as fast". If you invested huge amounts of capital and campaigning, bought advertisements, setup protests, got on the news, etc. etc. perhaps enough people might notice. Doesn't mean it's effective to write a letter.
I helped change a law in Italy despite not having a lot of money or "knowing anyone". Myself and others worked on it on and off for about two years before getting a foot in the right door.

http://www.governo.it/Notizie/Presidenza/dettaglio.asp?d=690...

We're not really satisfied with the new law, but it is a small step in the right direction, and we continue to work to improve things:

http://srlfacile.org/

It's kind of a minor issue, and low hanging fruit, but still, I'm proud of it.

You are right on about writing letters. Go ahead and do it, but know that it's not enough.

Look at the civil rights movement in the US. I'm glad they didn't just decide that, having written a letter or two, and not having seen any change, that it was impossible and to give up.