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by pbhjpbhj 4523 days ago
Doesn't MSIE8 have a MSIE7 compatability mode that basically runs the IE7 rendering engine in a wrapper (like IE tab).

Can't you use MSIE7 on the internal system and have a recent browser for web access?

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> Doesn't MSIE8 have a MSIE7 compatability mode that basically runs the IE7 rendering engine in a wrapper

Of course not, that was obviously the right way to implement this so they had to do something worse first. IE7 compatibility mode works plausibly well for visual display but as eonwe's link pointed out there are still some key differences.

That link, however, doesn't really mention the worst part: IE8-as-IE7 does not have a compatible DOM or JavaScript engine. They're using the IE8 JS engine under the hood which is generally better but, among other things, it started raising exceptions for previously ignored bad code. I found out about this shortly after IE8 was released when my then-employer's Oracle apps stopped working because they used a really old version of a UI toolkit which at one point set zIndex to null before assigning it a new value. This is clearly invalid according to the specs but prior to IE8 it appears that nothing threw an exception. I ended up patching the JS file because getting a patch would have taken aeons and Oracle support actually called me asking if they could redistribute my work to other customers!

The good news is that Microsoft finally came up with the right way way to do this in MED-V, which will seem very familiar to anyone who's used e.g. VMware Fusion: you run antique versions of IE seamlessly inside a VM and the host's Internet Explorer can be configured to load certain sites inside the guest so you only take the performance / feature / security hit for your legacy enterprise apps instead of the entire web:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-US/video/Ff945178

"Oracle support actually called me asking if they could redistribute my work to other customers!"

What did you tell them?

Yes, given that I'd already released the code on a couple of customer lists but it was tempting to ask for a license fee, particularly given the arrogant first-line support we'd had to slog through to report the bug. “We don't do Microsoft's beta-testing for them. We'll start testing after IE8's released” – a week after the release
"We don't do Microsoft's beta-testing for them."

Wow... that really assumes a lot on their part to have that attitude. Like... MS will give a rat's ass about how some crappy Oracle app will work in their latest browsers. Or that anyone will take Oracle's response of "report this bug to MS" six months later as useful. But... this is probably the same attitude other big vendors have about Oracle's stuff too.

Wow...

Sadly, the IE7 compatibility-mode is not a perfect copy: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2009/03/12/site-compatibi...