[spion]

Building an application by rendering static webpages is just a horrible cludge. How did we even get here? How are we still even considering that the godawful turd that is string concatenation of DOM descriptors polished by a layer of templating languages is actually a decent way of writing applications?

Do you seriously believe this?

The virtual DOM is probably the biggest elephant in the room. It begs the question: why the hell isn't the REAL DOM like that?

[asdasf]

If you have to pose a really terrible strawman to argue for client side templates, you are basically conceding the argument. It is even worse given that moving it to the client doesn't change anything you complained about.

[spion]

Haha, this got parodied by the horse. Anyway, I use angular.js. It tries to suggest a reasonable path forward for evolving the the DOM into something which is usable for applications. (resulting with web components, shadow DOM etc)

But yes I realized I'm arguing about the wrong thing - about web applications, not (most) websites. Whoops.