[zwdr]

:S

EDIT: For a bit of background: He and the CCC were never really friendly with each other. He tried to fit in the german hacker culture, but everyone knew he was a fraud.

For example, he tried to recruit young people on the mailing list into shady jobs with promises of easy money (that he didn't have back then). There are a few other stunts, but generally he behaved like a 14 year old asshole with a big ego and too much time on his hand. Didn't help that he tried to bullshit everyone about how much money he made (DATAPROTECT LOL).

Maybe that didn't get through the translation.

[yapcguy]

> He tried to fit in the german hacker culture, but everyone knew he was a fraud.

Meanwhile readers of "HackerNews" and all the self-proclaimed "Hackers" at YC start-ups and all the trendy new "Growth Hackers" of course have much more in common with the CCC and hacker culture...

> he tried to recruit young people on the mailing list into shady jobs with promises of easy money

Like every entrepreneur at venture backed start-ups, right?!

[zwdr]

>Meanwhile readers of "HackerNews" and all the self-proclaimed "Hackers" at YC start-ups and all the trendy new "Growth Hackers" of course have much more in common with the CCC and hacker culture...

Please do a Ctrl+f again, I'm sure you wont find anything about HN or Start-Ups in my post.

>Like every entrepreneur at venture backed start-ups, right?!

Dunno, guess some startups are shady, guess some don't. Can we please talk about Kimble now? You're derailing the topic here.

[ramblerman]

Not really, he's trying to show that in the context of HN and startups kimble was doing what a lot of people do here, just using a different medium

[rfnslyr]

Yeah, and this is why I'm still trading the precious hours of my life for a few dollars to write code nobody is ever going to use, look at, or benefit from, while he is bathing in money.

The scummy shit he did is negligible.

[zwdr]

I think the fact that he's good at marketing doesn't change the fact that he did a lot of morally questionable things.

And I don't think they're negligible– at least not from an ethical point of view.