[alan_cx]

Tongue in cheek, but I think there might be a point here struggling to see the light of day...

Why? I mean, why would women want to get into coding?

If one is not already working with computers, from the outside world, its a crappy job, and the money isn't better than many other things. Not to mention the insane hours culture. Women have a clean sheet choice. Why work in an office, killing your brain on hugely complex things for not much extra money, sat in front of what is essentially a complex toy?

Has it ever occurred to people that perhaps girls take an objective choice based on purely the work and reward (money or psychological) and make a wise choice to do something else?

Also, coders are seen widely was geeky, spotty, awkward, weirdos, who cant get laid. And, um, they are often banging on about getting more women in the workplace. From a girls POV, that's sounding a bit iffy at best.

My attitude is to just let women do what they want to do, and if I get a CV from one, well, I dont want to know if its a woman or not. I just want the skills. I dont care if its a man, woman, or what ever. Just don't get in anyones way and let nature take its course.

But personally, I cant help thinking women are making a smart choice, and going for better way to spend life earning a crust. I mean, really, look at what we do. Its a terrible way to be. And we know this is true because even the big tech companies go out of their way trying to make offices and environments fun and exciting. And that is for men. Heh, even men hate it, and need a bouincy toy to distract them!!! I don't see many of other companies going this far. Why? Because the job is awful.

So, men, stop trying to shit up womens lives by making them feel bad for not wanting to work down the mine.... sorry, code.

XXXXX love you all, obviously ;)

[Cthulhu_]

I'm a high-end coder working as a consultant for a major international bank (etc etc etc), and your assertions / sweeping generalisations about coders are wrong; first, not all of us are weirdos; most are married or dating, and we work regular 9 - 5:30 days (with some flexibility). Definitely not a mine (although I wouldn't mind a bit more natural light, but then, office buildings).

If it was a 'terrible way to be', I wouldn't be working here; I like my job. Also, if they try to lure me in with bouncy toys, I'll tell 'em to fuck right off - that probably means the other working conditions, pay, etc are shit.

[_bfhp]

I dunno, programming can be as fun as any other art, and the money is good and secure. And I don't see how this analysis incorporates gender at all -- unless you're saying women are better at decision-making than men, heh