[kamaal]

>>those conditions would suffice for a class action against the employer.

What good would that do?

If you pass laws that make it difficult to start and sustain a competitive company, next time around you will see such companies would be starting up in some other country.

Now the whole ecosystem suffers.

[shaan7]

you mean to run a "competitive company" you have to abuse your employees? I know a lot of companies that are the best in their business and never have to.

It is just unfortunate for India that our so-called IT Industry is just marketing itself as cheap and easy-to-abuse labour.

[kamaal]

>>you mean to run a "competitive company" you have to abuse your employees?

Not at all, but to be a "competitive company" you have to be "competitive" which is essentially doing better than your competition. The issue is someone is always willing to put more effort than you/your company. This is where it all breaks down.

This is exactly what makes our profession so much sought after. Because at some point you can make money non linear to your effort, and if you compress that effort into a small period of time you can make a fortune.

For every person that is happy to go back working 4 hours a day, there are people to put in 16 hours a day.

>>It is just unfortunate for India that our so-called IT Industry is just marketing itself as cheap and easy-to-abuse labour.

IT professionals in India are not cheap. Compare it with any other profession in India, even engineers. We come out easily as better paid people here.

And even a cursory look at the start up industry across the world, not just in India will tell you what kind of a fierce competition it is.

[hibbelig]

I don't agree that abusing employees helps. Software development is a creative activity, and you've got to get enough rest to be creative.

Disclosure: European here.

[girvo]

Yknow, a lot of the world doesn't run their economy through some zero-sum fuck-your-employees-the-bottom-line-is-what-matters crap...

[pjmlp]

I work in the enterprise world with a few major Indian consulting companies.

Their European sites always have problems trying to force the Indian work style on the European workers.

Somehow their managers keep forgetting our work laws.