[tux10]

The biggest issue C++Builder has for me is that it is pretty damn expensive considering Xcode is included as part of OS X. The Professional version is £850 and still requires the extra purchase of the Mobile Add-on pack which is an extra £423! That makes the total cost £1273!! I would rather pay less and buy a Macbook Air which comes with Xcode.

[pjmlp]

If it is just you, it might be expensive, but it is pretty cheap for big companies, when you compare it with other commercial frameworks or compilers.

[tux10]

Yeah I am talking about individuals. I guess I am not their target customer though. Obviously to big companies a few thousand is nothing (especially when you look at >$10k for MSDN Ultimate) but Embarcadero have zero products aimed towards the individual developer (not even the Starter Edition is worth it as it is so limited for the price).

[pjmlp]

> Embarcadero have zero products aimed towards the individual developer

I think that is a sign of what the company has become, after being about to close so many times.

I bet it lives mostly from enterprise legacy contracts nowadays.

[tux10]

Yeah I can't remember the last place I saw running any Borland/Embarcadero software with the exception of some really old stuff still compiled with C++Builder6. That place was also running Visual Studio 6 for some stuff too :) Ahh the memories.

[mamcx]

Delphi 3 was the first program that I pay for (second was visual foxpro). Obviously, at US99 a student like me could do it. I'm moderator in the http://www.clubdelphi.com and is sad to see all the same faces all the time. New blood is hard to get, specially in latin america, when .NET is affordable/free and all the open source stuff.

Is sad that the misguided strategy that start with the Borland has pass up to Embarcadero. Where they must look for broad appeal they decide to milk instead :(. Delphi was huge (Delphi 3 - 5) and if they have more critical mass now will be a powerful force. The worst? Delphi is SOOOO good that have survived despite all the problems so far.

Still, Delphi + Python are my favorites languages of all the time...

[tux10]

Delphi back in the late 90s was kick ass. Nothing could touch it for desktop application development in my opinion. The people who forced themselves to use MFC and C++ on Windows were missing out big time on the ease of use of Delphi and VCL. It wasn't until C# and .NET that things got to the same ease of development as I was used to with Delphi.

[onezeno]

I work in C++Builder 6 still (small company). I'm trying to get things ported to Qt.

[72deluxe]

Wow, that thing is ancient! I think their Kylix range used an old Qt back end, or was it wx?

[tux10]

What OS are you running it on out of interest? Does it still run on modern platforms?