[bri3d]

"Clearance" isn't supposed to be some magic card that lets someone go find every document marked with their level of "clearance." It's just a permission to receive knowledge marked with that level of "clearance" as necessary to do one's job.

NSA staffers have defined roles and are given information on a need-to-know basis. Obviously the Snowden leaks proved that at least for a sysad, the technical component of the need-to-know restriction was broken, but that's how it's supposed to work.

For Congressional oversight to be useful, Congress (or a subset) need a higher level of access than that given to the NSA themselves - the ability to ask for any information and have it given to them.

That's a pretty powerful tool, so I don't think the "well NSA has lot of people" counter is valid.

[cdash]

So instead the people who make our laws should be blind to the results of those laws or anything that is happening outside of the laws they have written.

[xerophtye]

i think both of you are on the same side of the argument. If i got you correctly, you mean to say that Congressmen DESERVE a higher level of clearance than the NSA itself. The congress SHOULD be able to ask for any information and thus gain access to it. Did i get that right?

If i did, then your parent seems to want the same thing. He means that "there are 535 people in congress" is a bad defense.

Though i might have gotten you incorrectly and you might have meant that you cant say "but NSA employees have access! The congress should have it too!" Because giving access to congress is different to giving access to NSA employees as Congrees needs a VERY high level clearance to all 535 members, and that in the NSA itself, the actual number of people who have that kind of access would be very small.