[skybrian]

Seems like you're promoting some myths as well.

Kids don't magically decide that math or science or computer programming is fun. They're heavily influenced by what they're exposed to and what they see other people they respect doing. Yes, that's "marketing" or perhaps better call it education.

And no, giving a kid the "C programming language" isn't going to cut it unless they've previously had enough exposure to math or engineering to understand why it's interesting. (Based on what I've heard, Minecraft seems to be working a lot better.)

[wanda]

Okay, perhaps I am being subjective. I got into this stuff on my own, maybe exposure makes a difference for some. But let's face it, there's no objective reason why math/compsci/engineering should be interesting even after you understand it. It's not like you can just explain it x many times and suddenly a girl will be like "wow it's so amazing and deep and clever." You and I may appreciate it, but can you say why? Can you give me the fundamental reason why it should be interesting as a matter of fact? Besides, we're in the 21st century. Girls can expose themselves to whatever they want. I don't think programming and calculus are terribly obscure.

[skybrian]

I'm not sure calculus is a great example for your argument. How many kids do you think would actually learn calculus on their own? It's something that most kids think is way beyond them and they don't even know what it is (other than a kind of math) until they actually study it in school.

And that's a standard subject taught in high school. I think if instead you look at why kids learn music or art or dance or drama or sports or a foreign language or religion, you'll find that the parents and relatives and friends often (not always) have a lot to do with it. And even with parental support, often the kids decide it's not for them. And that's fine; at least they got the chance.

I don't see computer programming as being all that different; not every kid is going to be into any given activity, but if they're not exposed to it in a way that makes it seem interesting, that's going to drastically reduce the number of kids who even try it. And that exposure is going to vary pretty dramatically depending on where you grew up.

[asdasf]

>Kids don't magically decide that math or science or computer programming is fun

Yeah, they do. That's why it is so important to expose kids to lots of things. You never know what is going to capture their imagination.