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by minimaxir 4545 days ago
When you have modern CSS frameworks like Bootstrap and Foundation available, the CSS aspect of a website is arguably one of the least complicated aspects of front-end development. (and better for the users instead of using JavaScript)

Even animations are easier to do in CSS due to CSS3 animation libraries.
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crimsonalucard 4545 days ago
Err Bootstrap isn't a complete solution.
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minimaxir 4545 days ago
Neither is HTML+CSS.

For a startup landing page layout, Bootstrap is more than enough. (see examples at http://www.blacktie.co )

If you want interactivity via AJAX/Angular, you'll need to include some sort of JavaScript of course, but that's outside the scope of the layout question.

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sp332 4545 days ago
Bootstrap is javascript.
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minimaxir 4545 days ago
No it isn't. The majority of the Bootstrap framework is CSS. (there's an optional JavaScript component for advanced functionality)
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ptx 4545 days ago
Maybe he's using Netscape 4, in which case CSS would also be JavaScript, more or less. http://www.netmechanic.com/news/vol4/css_no17.htm
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mintplant 4545 days ago
Bootstrap contains some JavaScript for certain modules, but the majority is CSS (well, Less).
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sp332 4545 days ago
Ok, cool. But Less is also javascript!
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ben336 4545 days ago
No LESS is a stylesheet language that compiles down to CSS. Javascript isn't involved at all, unless you use their script tool to run uncompiled LESS in the browser. That is only meant for prototyping though, in production it will be compiled down to CSS.
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minimaxir 4545 days ago
What the client sees is CSS, and that's the important part.
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sp332 4545 days ago
The important part for elorant (and me) is that CSS is awful to work with. And everyone in this thread is proving it by pointing out that you should use some kind of translation layer instead of actually touching it.
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pyre 4545 days ago
Well, there's two things at play here. The complexity of the CSS model in the browser (plus all the browser-specific quirks) and the CSS syntax. Less only solves the CSS syntax issue.

My reading of this thread is that it was started based on the complexity of dealing with CSS in the browser rather than dealing with the CSS syntax.

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Bahamut 4545 days ago
It does suck to work with, but it is workable if you put in the time investment to learn it, just like any language. Nothing that justifies flat out incorrect statements/dramatic behavior.
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