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by RockyMcNuts 4551 days ago
TFA defends JPM and skeptically deconstructs the accusation, so this comment is forehead-slappingly stupid.

If someone comes to an investment bank and asks for access to something that the investment bank knows is a fraud, and the bank provides it and takes the fee, while ending up short the fraud... that's a bit of a problem.

As Madoff's banker with billions of dollars on deposit, JPMorgan can see every cash flow. But apparently, they don't notice the disconnect between the business he claims to be doing and the cash, because the banker doesn't even know what the account is for. So much for asking all the right questions.

Late in the game, a different part of JPMorgan does a tiny amount of due diligence, and realizes Madoff is a fraud.

They don't tell the SEC.

They don't talk to Madoff's banker.

They take the money out of Madoff funds, effectively going short.

They don't tell clients it's a fraud, but basically we don't like it and we like either stuff better, try to move them into other investments.

They're in a conflicted position as his banker, to rat him out to clients or authorities.

But basically they should have realized something was amiss sooner, and they should have notified the authorities.

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They didn't tell Madoff's banker probably because they couldn't as a result of Chinese wall requirements between the two businesses. They didn't tell the SEC because they were in London, but they did tell the UK authorities. Why didn't the UK authorities figure it out? Why should JPM, which sort-of has the job of detecting fraud, be expected to do better than the regulators for whom it is their primary purpose?
SEC examiner gets duped by fake records and doesn't check the real bank records -> should probably be fired and the agency investigated

JPMorgan banker, who has all the cash flows, doesn't bother to notice they don't add up and billions are missing -> should probably be fired and JPMorgan should be fined.

One person's incompetence doesn't excuse the other's. Especially when one gets fake records and the other knows the real numbers.

Out of all of this the failure of the SEC to say "shit guys, we really could have noticed this, sorry" is pretty damned aggravating.

JPM has plenty they could and should have done better doubtless deserve censure, but it would be nice for the regulators to admit that they did a poor job.