[growupkids]

Here's some official government sources to go along with this discussion.

Women earn the majority of bachelors, masters and doctorates:

http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=72

Women live longer than men:

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr61/nvsr61_06.pdf

More women in the workforce have degrees than men:

http://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/education/c...

And some non government research papers:

Women choose safer jobs than men (which may explain some income gap differences):

http://www.nber.org/papers/w8574

And a study that suggests that men and women are paid the same:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/30/payscale-study-wome...

[pessimizer]

>Women earn the majority of bachelors, masters and doctorates

Wonderful. Its good that the efforts that were made to help women in education have borne so much fruit that we're starting (or were starting in the 90s) to worry about boys falling behind. That's a sign that the supports might eventually be alright to take away.

>Women live longer than men:

Since the stone age. Is this a discussion of jealousy, or sexism?

>Women choose safer jobs than men (which may explain some income gap differences):

>And a study that suggests that men and women are paid the same:

For the same jobs. Probably. I believe these studies and hate the X cents on a dollar deceptive statistic. The fact is, women don't have the same jobs as men, they have lower level ones due to prejudice and childbearing. I'd also argue that there are many high-skill jobs that are traditionally dominated by women, and due to that domination are less respected and paid less. Even within female-dominated professions, management still somehow ends up dominated by men due to the "glass elevator."

[growupkids]

Here's another source, it appears there is no gender gap in pay:

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/05/the-bigg...

It also appears the later differences in pay may have more to do with life choices. Such as raising a family, which believe it or not some women consider a higher priority than their careers. Blasphemy, I know, clearly a byproduct of the patriarchy.

[pessimizer]

"Comparing men and women job-by-job conceals the fact that men still dominate many of the highest-paying jobs. PayScale studied more than 120 occupation categories, from "machinist" to "dietician." Nine of the ten lowest-paying jobs (e.g.: child-care worker, library assistant) were disproportionately female. Nine of the ten highest-paying jobs (e.g.: software architect, psychiatrist) were majority male. Nurse anesthetist was the best-paid position held mostly by women; but an estimated 69 percent of better-paid anesthesiologists were male."

Blasphemy, I know, but it was your link.

edit: This is exactly the case I made, and it is the conclusion to the reference. I don't know what kind of dissonance it takes to downvote me for pointing it out.

[growupkids]

I think you're missing the point of the study. The so called gap doesn't exist when you compare apples and apples. Claiming its a gender gap when a librarian isn't paid as much As a physician is disengeous. The claim is women are paid less, which isn't the truth, they we paid the sAme as men performing the same job. The gender pay gap is a myth.

[ps4fanboy]

Then stop calling it a wage gap, and start talking about why men are not becoming child care workers and library assistants. When you set the tone of the discussion around income and the n cents on the dollar crap you invite this sort of criticism.

[ps4fanboy]

Stop bringing rational and critical thinking to this debate, you obviously haven't checked your privilege or heard of the patriarchy.

[mkr-hn]

This is amusing in /r/TumblrInAction, but HN is best when the discussion is slightly above the level of watching monkeys fling poo at each other.

[ps4fanboy]

While I agree with you I was trying in a humors way to point out that these studies contradict a lot of what this debate is about and therefore will be ignored. Which looking at all the discussion around these studies seems likely.

[growupkids]

LOL. I needed a laugh, thanks. :)