[pessimizer]

Do men dominate homelessness, or do old women and single mothers with children? I'd be interested in any links you have.

also:

>Women are successful in the West

In what way?

>more of them get college degrees,

Oh, that actually is pretty good.

>they live longer,

Didn't they always? That's just biology, isn't it?

>no law forces them to register for the military (in the U.S. at least),

That's not a success of women, that's just a sexist (and common) law. Saudi women aren't drafted either.

>the law doesn't imprison them nearly as much,

Because they don't commit nearly as much crime? I don't understand this at all.

>the government has many programs to help them,

Yup. More would be even better.

>and so on.

So more than college, then?

[trentmb]

Regarding homelessness: http://www.nationalhomeless.org/factsheets/who.html

GENDER

Most studies show that single homeless adults are more likely to be male than female. In 2007, a survey by the U.S. Conference of Mayors found that of the population surveyed 35% of the homeless people who are members of households with children are male while 65% of these people are females. However, 67.5% of the single homeless population is male, and it is this single population that makes up 76% of the homeless populations surveyed (U.S. Conference of Mayors, 2007).

EDIT: Another: http://www.societyhealth.vcu.edu/Page.aspx?nav=29&scope=0&so...

Most homeless adults are men, but most homeless adults with children are women.

[pessimizer]

Quickly:

Single Homeless Adults: 76% Individuals in Homeless Families: 24%

male percentage of single homeless adults: 67.5% female percentage of single homeless adults: 32.5%

male percentage of homeless family members: 35% female percentage of homeless family members: 65%

single male percentage, all homeless: .675 * 76% = 51.3% single female percentage, all homeless: .325 * 76% = 24.7%

family male percentage, all homeless: .35 * 24% = 8.4% family female percentage, all homeless: .65 * 24% = 15.6%

male percentage = 51.3% + 8.4% = 60% female percentage = 24.7% + 15.6% = 40%

Ok, interesting...

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AGE

In 2003, children under the age of 18 accounted for 39% of the homeless population; 42% of these children were under the age of five (National Law Center on Homelessness and Poverty, 2004). This same study found that unaccompanied minors comprised 5% of the urban homeless population. However, in other cities and especially in rural areas, the numbers of children experiencing homelessness are much higher.

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minors, 42% of all homeless children under 5, .39 * 42% = 16.38%

So male, 60%; female, 40%; children under 5, 16%.

If I make the assumption that the children under 5 percentage is evenly split between male and female, and an additional assumption that homeless children are members of families, it means that of the 8.4% of males homeless in families, all but a remnant are under the care of a homeless woman.

That means that the portion of the homeless that are women and their children is around half.

[4bpp]

> don't commit nearly as much crime

I remember previously stumbling upon http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201213/cmhansrd/c... - while I don't know to what extent the situation is similar in the US and haven't cross-checked the statistics, the data the speaker quotes seems to suggest that there is a significant disparity even if you control for that. (The relevant figures are all on the first two pages or so; beyond that, there isn't much to see apart from polemical banter)

[vezzy-fnord]

That's not a success of women, that's just a sexist (and common) law.

Yet when was the last time you saw feminist and women's organizations actively campaigning for more females to register in the military and fight in the battlefield? Practically never, from my experience. Last time I saw it mentioned was an activist who was insisting on diluting military training to make it more accessible to women, which... is not a solution, I hope you realize that.

But for the most part, it's never discussed. After all, war is hell. If women are not encouraged to go out and die, that's a big advantage, even if a technically sexist one. It's an example of sexism that is actually beneficial to the group that experiences it. Why would they want to fix it?

Because they don't commit nearly as much crime? I don't understand this at all.

That or they get more lenient sentencing: https://etd.ohiolink.edu/ap:10:0::NO:10:P10_ETD_SUBID:49114

Also: "Interestingly, among women, white female defendants receive more severe sentence outcomes than black females."

Yup. More would be even better.

I guess they would if you value short-term hacks that give specific advantages to a group over actual long-term solutions.

[pessimizer]

>Yet when was the last time you saw feminist and women's organizations actively campaigning for more females to register in the military and fight in the battlefield?

Who cares what some strawman feminist thinks, especially since the strawman feminist didn't even support the ERA. I'm saying that characterizing this as a success of women is incoherent.

>That or they get more lenient sentencing: https://etd.ohiolink.edu/ap:10:0::NO:10:P10_ETD_SUBID:49114

Could you summarize that, rather than throwing it out there?

>I guess they would if you value short-term hacks that give specific advantages to a group over actual long-term solutions.

And what are these long-term solutions?

[quinnchr]

"Yet when was the last time you saw feminist and women's organizations actively campaigning for more females to register in the military and fight in the battlefield?"

This is the stupidest argument. Why is this same argument brought up every single time?

Feminists would say that selective service IS sexist, and that we should abolish it. In fact several women's organizations have helped challenge the legality of it to the supreme court (The American Civil Liberties Union Women’s Rights Project for one).

Remember in 1980 when Jimmy Carter urged congress against enacting male only registration and the 97% male congress enacted it anyway? How is this the fault of women?