[Moocat87]

>My feeling is that most people who commit suicide do it because they decided it on a rational basis. Some people commit suicide because they want to stop a pain they feel and in their view will apparently last forever or will get worse. I.e cancer, someone has to spend the rest of his life in a bed after an accident ... People can also commit suicide as a sacrifice to save others. But I guess you were not talking of these types of suicide.

You think that more people commit suicide for others than for themselves? Care to explain why or cite anything?

>Suicide due to mental instability is probably just a small fraction of all suicide.

Cite?

[chmike]

No. I don't think that and I didn't said that.

Cite? Just found this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide.

From the graphic shown on the page, not all suicide are caused by mental illness. That was my main point.

I have some doubts about the mental illness importance shown in this graph. Anyway, the mental illness could be the source of pain leading to the rational decision to end it by suicide.

[Moocat87]

I don't think 40-50% qualifies as a "small fraction."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Suicidecases.png

[chmike]

I must admit I was wrong on this assumption.