[skrebbel]

C# is a good example of a language that combines safety and productivity quite nicely, compared to e.g. JavaScript or Python. It's just about as expressive as those languages, albeit slightly more verbose than Python, yet its types provide more safety.

And that's just a start. I'm told that you don't need that much practice to get really productive with Haskell, while enjoying just about all kinds of safety that a language could provide.

In the case of M#, I believe that they want to add contract based programming to the core language to provide extra safety. That would mean that you can choose to use those features at those places where you think safety is very important, and choose to let them fly where productivity matters more.

[PythonicAlpha]

I would not agree, that C# is nearly as productive as Python. Have you ever programmed in Python? I doubt that!

[jinushaun]

There's a blog post I've been meaning to write that challenges your belief about C#, but comparing C# to Ruby. The problem is that idiomatic C# looks like Java, even though the language and .NET library allows you to code like idiomatic Ruby and Python. It's just that most people don't naturally code C# that way, even though you can.

[PythonicAlpha]

Could be. But there is the crux: A language should guide the programmers to good use of the possibilities of that language. If it does not, what worth are they?

You also must define "idiomatic Python" or "idiomatic C#" first. I would recommend, that you first write your post and than commence with the discussion.