[Smirnoff]

I hope Durov brothers are taking notes. Making a half-baked Facebook clone is not the same as making a fully-secured messaging system.

PS: These guys are still copying Facebook. Facebook released a messaging app, so these guys did the same. But, hey, Telegram is different because it uses MITM and it's "secure".

[11001]

"200% secure".

[DavidShahoumian]

> half-baked Facebook clone

It is better than Facebook in every possible way.

Have you actually ever used VK (both the site and the mobile apps)?

[Smirnoff]

Glad you asked. I used to use Vkontakte (and Odnoklassniki btw) in the past. Vkontakte has always been in the catchup position with "missing" or "out-of-blue broken" features on a surprisingly consistent basis.

Now, I won't discuss these missing/broken features here. You can look them up on their app's comments section. But I will leave you with one very important thing about privacy:

VK shows when you were online the last time. VK also shows you online if you login without an ability to turn it off! Great for stalkers and unfortunate for those who wouldn't want to receive unwanted conversations.

So I am very reluctant to trust someone, who really doesn't get privacy to build a messaging system with security and privacy in mind. Because we clearly view privacy differently.

[new_test]

> It is better than Facebook in every possible way.

Even if it were true, your statement still doesn't contradict GP's assertion.

[DavidShahoumian]

By that logic one could state that, for instance, Chrysler cars are "Ford clones" because Ford was the first manufacturer to become very popular and commercially successful.