[vidarh]

The filter is at the account level. That leaves a whole lot of people, both kids that will miss out on access on non-pornographic sites that are wrongfully filtered, and adults living in family households that are left without a realistic choice.

That makes it a problem for me. The net effect is that it realistically, given UK employment patterns, it reinforces patriarchal means of control of the family unit.

[retube]

> both kids that will miss out on access on non-pornographic sites that are wrongfully filtered,

just cos the implementation may be buggy doesn't detract from the basic premise.

> and adults living in family households that are left without a realistic choice

given that it will be the adults thet are paying the bill and it's their choice to filter or not not sure there's a problem here.

> it reinforces patriarchal means of control of the family unit.

umm i reckon mums will be far more motivated and keen to restrict access than dads

[vidarh]

> just cos the implementation may be buggy doesn't detract from the basic premise.

But it does mean the practical implementation creates the risk of substantial harm. And we're waiting on those citations that shows that the existence of the filter will protect against any harm.

> given that it will be the adults thet are paying the bill and it's their choice to filter or not not sure there's a problem here.

You miss the point: A substantial number of UK adults share households with other adult family members, with the average age for moving out having been pushed well into the 20's. Many of these adults may not be in a position where they are realistically able to ask the person in control of the internet connection to turn off the filter. You try being a 20-year old woman in a religious household and going to your dad and ask him to remove the porn filter because you want to look at those filtered sex education sites. Or a battered wife wanting to look for a support site and running into a block.

> umm i reckon mums will be far more motivated and keen to restrict access than dads

Meanwhile, Mumsnet, the largest social networking site for mums in the UK was forced to retract their support after a massive uproar amongst their users, who made it exceedingly clear they did not want the filter and who were extremely upset that the site operators had chosen to support it.

And you are demonstrating exactly the kind of attitudes that will deprive a lot of people of the realistic ability to choose, even as adults, to get an unfiltered internet connection.